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Thursday, December 16, 2004

Does Drano work on the economy?

Here's a link to an article in today's Time Europe Magazine about recent attempts to plug the "brain drain" that's plagued European research for decades. The problem, essentially, is that the best and brightest European scientists have been lured out of their home countries and into the US. Why? Because America offers the lure of "generous funding, better facilities, and meritocratic culture." All in all, that means a better environment in which to work. It also means less money for Europe. "Billions of euros and tens of thousands of jobs are at stake, because science drives economic growth in the IT, biotech and pharmaceutical sectors." In this case at least, bad for Europe = good for America. That's become particularly important in the last couple of decades. Blue-collar American jobs are going to Asia, where they can be done cheaper. We need to find new jobs that can't. If that means continuing to import eggheads from Ireland and Italy, then I'm all for it.

While the Time article deals with ways in which the EU is committing to fight the brain drain, it fails to mention that here at home America has started kicking its own ass. Here's an op-ed piece (originally published in the NY Times) written by Harvard professor Joseph Nye. It starts out "[l]ast year, the number of foreign students at American colleges and universities fell for the first time since 1971. Recent reports show that total foreign student enrollment in our 2,700 colleges and universities dropped 2.4 percent, with a much sharper loss at large research institutions. Two-thirds of the 25 universities with the most foreign students reported major enrollment declines." It's not that we don't want foreign students. It's that they can't get here. Since 9/11, the hassle of getting a visa to study here has turned from tough to nightmarish. One of my own friends, a doctoral student from China, went home for a month-long visit and ended up staying for about a year - stuck on a leash made of red tape.

Nye goes on to point out that "[t]he costs to the American economy are significant. Educating foreign students is a $13 billion industry. Moreover, the United States does not produce enough home-grown doctoral students in science and engineering to meet our needs."

The problem extends beyond science as well. In this great article on America's shrinking significance in the world economy, Slate.com editorialist Daniel Gross points out that Wall Street is also suffering. "Young foreign wannabe executives are shunning the United States. Business Week earlier this year lamented the 'staggering' declines in applications of foreigners to U.S. business schools—down 24 percent at Wharton in 2004. [T]he number of foreigners taking the GMAT has fallen 27 percent since 2002, and... 74 percent of the schools [surveyed] saw declines in international applications in 2004. Thanks in part to the sharp reductions in the availability of H1-B visas—from about 200,000 in fiscal 2001 to about 65,000 this year—legions of skilled foreigners now ply their trades at home, or in other countries, instead of helping to build businesses here."

Though we can't disregard the very real security concerns that America must now consider when accepting foreign workers and students, the cost of shoving a fat bureaucratic hairball up the brain drain seems to outweigh the risk. Here's a problem we need to solve. Let's write some congresspeople.

One more thing. None of those articles mention the anti-intellectual clouds that keep popping up in the current conservative climate. (Creationism, for example). They're enough to make a scientist pretty uncomfortable. I can think of at least one who's planning to leave for England for part of his career. Me.

8 Comments:

Blogger Brian P. O'Connor said...

Dan's warning about a reverse brain drain is right on.

One of my good friends from graduate school, Sergio, is from Chile and now doing a postdoc in NYC. Sergio began his graduate career in the U.S. back in 1999 and played a big role recruiting other South Americans to Dartmouth throughout the years. After 9/11, the number of South American students interested in coming to Dartmouth to pursue a graduate level degree dropped substantially. The decline in interest was directly related to the difficulty in obtaining visas. Even Sergio had difficulty going home for vacation and then getting return entry back into the U.S.

My wife and I also witnessed other entry problems for foreigners while at Dartmouth. A colleague of my wife, a professor working in the Anthropology Department who grew up in the Middle East, was retained for over a month and denied entry back into the U.S. in 2002, even though he had all of the proper paperwork and visas that were required. The Middle Eastern professor was finally allowed back into the U.S. after actions taken on his behalf by the Dartmouth College President's office.

From social issues to immigration policy to economic resources, the U.S. is becoming less and less friendly to scientists. High tech and science will have to be the major economic engines for the U.S., producing high value added products and services. Other countries, especially in Asia, will take over much of the traditional manufacturing industries, unless somehow the global economy is regulated to ensure that outsourcing is not advantageous. And, while the U.S. waits to figure all of this out, other countries, like Ireland have taken on leadership roles in high tech and science. In return, Ireland’s economy has been the most successful in the E.U. and, they have done so while maintaining their cultural identity and environmental concerns. For a brief primer of how Ireland became an economic success, check out this article from Economist magazine.

The U.S. is at a crossroads, in many ways. If our economy is to succeed in the 21st century, we (Americans) are going to have to embrace science as a way forward or other countries will soon be attracting our best and brightest to their shores.

As Dan said, I know of at least one scientist who is considering heading over the pond to greener fields.

December 16, 2004 8:45 AM

 
Blogger Kender said...

We need to repair the education system here. We have plenty of intelligent people here, and I see no reason that Americans don't go into science.

December 16, 2004 5:35 PM

 
Blogger Brian P. O'Connor said...

I agree with you Kender when you say: “We need to repair the education system here.” We do need to change the education system in this country. No child left behind is certainly not helping and neither is the blind conservative movement in this country that insists on diluting science. While challenges are being made to basic tenets of the science, like Evolution, there will continue to be plenty of reasons why Americans do not go into science.

And speaking of being blind, Kender, you demonstrate a lack of insight on modern American education trends when you say: “We have plenty of intelligent people here, and I see no reason that Americans don't go into science.” Being intelligent is not synonymous with scientific aptitude. Science has to be cultivated in our schools, starting with young children and leading to college students who go on to get graduate degrees. How are we doing on that? The National Science Board recently published a report indicating that during the period of 1994-2001, there was a 10% DECREASE in the number of US citizens that entered a graduate program in science in the U.S. Concomitantly, there was a 30% INCREASE in the number of foreign students that entered graduate programs in the U.S. So, Kender, you’re an intelligent person and given this information: Which countries are doing a better job of educating their kids in science and motivating an interest for research? What happens to America when the scientists start going someplace else?

December 17, 2004 10:27 AM

 
Blogger Angry American said...

I knew immediately when student visas were linked to the 9/11 hijackers that it was going to spark some major issues with foreign students and postdocs. I have attended campus presentations about obtaining and renewing visas......it's a mess. Thus I certainly understand how this issue can prevent some from coming here to attend American universities. However, I am optimistic that things will get better with time.

As you all know advances in science cannot be made without money.....a lot of it! I too considered working in Europe and seriously considered a position in Scotland. I'm sure the experience would have been awsome. However, funding in the EU was and still is worse than in the States. So I was worried about whether I would be able to get my own grants, a prerequisite these days for finding an academic post. Also, I was worried about coming back to the US and whether I would need additional training to obtain my desired position here. Because, even though less US citizens are applying to graduate schools, the ones that do make the commitment get the best training in the world.

I agree that more students need to be turned on to science....physics, chemistry, engineering, biology. etc. These fields will be in demand in the future. This means science has to be presented in a way that's going to turn the kids on......early in their school career. I know some people that have gone and taught at Science Day for third graders.....the kids loved it. So all the tools are here, we just need to use them.

December 17, 2004 2:33 PM

 
Blogger Brian P. O'Connor said...

A. American, really good point and I totally agree. The U.S. is still the best place to accomplish cutting edge science, especially from a resource and funding perspective. The future of science in the U.S. will depend on our ability to recruit talented scientists from abroad and to maintain healthy numbers of homegrown scientists. As you, I believe that education, starting with the young, will enable the U.S. to maintain a position as a science leader. However, I also believe that the culture of scientific skepticism developing in our country will have to be curbed. Evolution and global warming are examples of well accepted scientific theories that are being called into question by some in the U.S. government to suit their own policy initiatives. This is very dangerous for the future of our country and allows the public to believe that scientific conclusions about the world do not need to be taken seriously. Scientists must become more vocal in defending the scientific process in the public arena. I also challenge scientists on both sides of the political playing field, to dispute erroneous claims made by our government. Defending evolution and global warming would be a good start.

December 17, 2004 4:06 PM

 
Blogger Angry American said...

Brian,

I really don't know how to begin defending the theory of evolution. Every time I hear it come up I just have to shake my head. I guess the argument of Intelligent Design is simpy that life is so complex that a higher being had to have created it. So, then my question is who/what created the higher being? I am not a religious person so I have trouble seeing it from that perspective. I would like to hear what evangelical scientists have to say on the subject and how they can integrate their religious beliefs with the scientific fact.

I remember as a child watching those old "In Search Of" shows where they were looking for proof of Noah's Ark. I really wanted them to find some hard evidence so that I could believe what they taught in Sunday school. Well, it never happened. Then I began learning about all the bad things that happened in the name of religion like the Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, Salem Witch Trials, etc, etc; as you know the list goes on and on. Thus, I really started to separate myself from organized religion.

Anyway, back to evolution and religion in schools. As you have heard they are trying to take "God" out of the pledge of allegiance and at the same time add "God" to the theory of evolution. My solution is this. Teach evolution in science class because it is based on analytical thinking and tangible, hard evidence. Then add a separate theology class that would not only teach youngsters about Christianity but also Islam, Buddism, Hinduism, etc. It would even be interesting to study the religions of ancient civilizations as well. Here they could learn how teh different religions explain creationism. Just in my off the cuff thinking, the class could read portions of the writings of each major religion and then compare these "teachings" with how members of these organized religions behave in modern society. For instance, the perversion of Islamic faith in order to kill the as UBL has done. Then young Americans will be exposed to all religions and may even find that they have more in common than they have differences.

Do you think Clarence Darrow is turing over in his grave?

December 19, 2004 8:21 AM

 
Blogger Snave said...

AA, good points all. As a left-winger living in a red-state sort of area, I run into some of these kinds of arguments too. It's sad that religion and science don't seem to get along any better today than they did 500 years ago...

December 19, 2004 9:33 PM

 
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